When I was in sixth grade, I had a social studies teacher who was funny. I thought. And he thought. And the other teachers thought. I loved when a teacher came to another teacher's door and they would whisper and giggle behind their gradebooks the same way we kids would do behind our Trapper Keepers. I loved when grownups did kiddo things. It made it less scary to grow up.
The other kids generally thought he was a jerk because he actually made us work at learning, but he was one of my favorite teachers ever.
He was witty, and quick, and I admire quick wit in people.
I always thought I was a riot. My friends' parents thought I was funnier than my friends did. My teachers more than my classmates. I took that as a compliment.
Around about the same age, our parents started letting us stay up late and watch television during sleep overs. We would turn down the television as low as it would go and watch HBO and Cinemax, and if we stayed up really really late, we could catch the old SNL that ran after the live one. It was the mid 80's. Old SNLs were always better than the new SNLs.
I remember seeing an Tim Curry skit. Him singing in an olden timey way about a lovely zucchini and I thought, that's brilliant. He's brilliant.
There was nothing dirty about the whole thing, on the surface. It was practically adorable. But I was old enough to know it was a dickjoke.
That social studies teacher, while he wasn't dirty, he would say things that would go over your head if you weren't listening. Or smart. I loved that.
I tried it. I tried it with my friends, my family, my classmates, my neighbors. I tried saying what I was thinking. What made me smile while walking down the street all by myself.
About half the people my one liners fell upon laughed, hysterically, the other half didn't say anything or told me it wasn't nice to do.
Because I'm a girl. Saying things that were slightly off color isn't a nice thing to do.
Girls aren't supposed to be funny, I gathered.
People like my teacher could be funny because they were men.
We couldn't be funny because we should have been busy doing something domestic.
So I kept my mouth shut for a few years.
I should've known better.
Girls on television weren't funny. Girls in books weren't funny. They still aren't, for the most part. They are either tight or slutty, giddy or sullen, strict or stupid. Usually annoying.
That irks me.
Stereotyping isn't funny.
Funny is funny.
I've been told (more than once, in so many words) that it's not that I'm so funny, it's just shocking to hear what I have to say come out of a face that looks like mine and people don't know what to do when they hear that so they laugh.
Or that I make a weird face or look ugly or use my body to be expressive while I tell a story so it surprises people into giggles. It's not so much the words, but the whole display of it.
Is that really it? I don't think so.
I like to believe that I'm being laughed with, rather than at.
I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing near you.
I'm terrible at telling jokes, but I'm a great story teller.
I pride myself on putting together a great sentence in no time flat.
Why do I still hesitate before I open my mouth?
Stop again before I let any sound come out?
I've said something that goes over mildly well at a party. A guy will steal my line to use on the other side of the room and from their mouth it goes over incredibly well.
I hate that.
I may say something about sex but it is never meant to be sexy or suggestive. About pain, about drugs, about terrible terrible things because if we can't laugh about them, we'll cry. It's how I deal.
I'm funny about other things too. Says me.
I think.
Maybe.
Humor is one of the few things that exist in my mind that girls have a harder time pulling off than do boys and I'm sick of it.
7.12.2009
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Hmmm.....I'm going to have to mull this one over.
Because, yes. I agree. But also, I don't think very many boys are really really funny but I know LOTS of girls who are really really funny.
The bar might be higher, but girls are better at jumping up to it.
Maybe.
I agree - it's somehow seen as "unfeminine" to be funny. When I was a teenager I used to work at a restaurant, and we were always having fun, being silly, pulling practical jokes on the guys who worked in the garage attached to the restaurant. I ringlead alot/most of it.
When I was 17 I got a boyfriend. A co-worker of mine (who was probably in her 30s, and a mother) looked at me with an odd expressions and said "I never really pictured you with a boyfriend." Thanks.
Suppose I didn't hang out and laugh prettily at the things the boys said while twirling my hair on my fingers, never having anything clever to say myself.
It's true. We're expected to be bubbly and perky, not smart and witty. A pair of boobs doesn't change our sense of humor. One reason I married my husband is because he thought I was funny, and he has a quick wit of his own. Sometimes we're the only people in the room who get each others jokes, and that makes us sad. We just figure they don't get it. You have to be kinda smart to get witty.
I agree. And it's irksome. My late husband rarely laughed at my jokes. But I didn't tell jokes like he did. I am off-handed, one-liner, sly, dry and wicked. He didn't get that. It was his one major flaw and was probably rooted in sexism that he didn't have the time to mature out of.
There is a line in a song "boys laugh at girls when they're not funny" I wish I could remember the title and group. But to me it says a lot. Men pretend to "get" us for reasons of their own, but many men simply can't get past our complexities and probably resent the fact that we can't be the simple creatures they grew up believing that we were.
Ugh, I have a husband who totally thinks I am funny but I still live in a world where I am not supposed to be equal.
I don't keep my mouth shut too often anymore. I am too old to care if I am taxing someone's worldview or level of intelligence.
HAHA, you are lucky Lora that you can come up with quick wits like that. I can't. It is a constant source of distress for me. My husband can crack one liners off without a second glance - if someone irritates me, or says something mean, about an hour or so later I'll think of what I should have said....
Thank goodness for Joan Rivers, Kathy Griffin, Kathleen Madigan, Wanda Sykes, etc. You're right, there are different rules for women but don't let that stop you from being who you are.
This is the exact reason I joined a punk band in the early 90's/ Because I was not supposed to be angry. Angry meant I was a bitch. Also boys in local bands told me I couldn't sing in aloud band I should play bass.
I was on the road for almost 10 years and my band was signed motherfucker and they all became junkies. HA
be as off color and as funny as you want to be.
I wish I was funny... I really am not but I wish I was. Hubby is though. BUT I know tons of girls who are funnier! Sorry I havent commented much... was on vaca!
Well we all think your kickass funny and we like that you're a girl to boot.
I married the first man I met who was both funny and didn't need to compete with me to be funnier.
We still crack eachother up.
You keep on keeping on baby because you're right, there arent enough outspoken and candid women around these days.
Just off the top of my head someone I admire for their expressive comedy is Wanda Sykes.
Anytime she says something even if its horrible I find myself going oh hells yea!! haha
OoOoooh another one that I think is onto something is Lisa Lampanelli
I wish I could curse like she did. I mean I drop fbombs like no ones business but she slays!
I am one of those dry sense of humor people most of the time I'll just state something and people are cracking up around me and Im sitting there going ummmm did I tell a joke Im just talking here lolz
We like your stories ♥
I know I think you are funny. You tell a good story. You have a way of tackling a hard issue, making a person think and timing it just right when to throw something in funny, or light or even sarcastic to help lighten the heavy.
I have to admit, I have never thought about it in terms of girls versus boys??? That is an interesting perspective.
Every comedienne will tell you that. It's not just about funny things. It's also about serious things. Intelligent things. "Girls" aren't supposed to say serious intelligent things. Get a guy to say the SAME thing and all of a sudden this guy is Einstein. Or something. Hey! I JUST said that! No matter.
I think you're funny. And that it comes out of your cute face makes it even funnier. It's part of the whole package and that's not a bad thing.
I've always had the same sort of attitude. I know it's horribly hypocritical, but I usually think girls aren't funny...or that the things they find funny don't really have that universal appeal.
I'm sure most of the things I say come off as totally unladylike, but I'm okay with that. I feel like I have that same sort of shock value--being blonde seems to add to it. I guess being female is pretty riddled with contradictions, but it's better than the alternative.
Just for the record, I think you're hilarious.
I completely agree that main stream stereo types of women are degrading. When is the whole virgin Mary or whore complex going to end. I have started to see more strong, smart and funny women on tv, but they always have to be gorgeous and thin too.
My favorite type of humor is ballbreaking. I get those weird looks for that. A lot of women look at me like I'm being innappropriate, and men look surprised and call me "one of the guys." No. I am a woman. An intelligent, independent woman who can break balls with the best of them!
I tend to think so much of male humor falls along those dick/fart lines (which, truthfully, I adore anyway) and female humor as being more subtle and cerebral (think Tina Fey). But Kathy Griffin is totally crude, and I appreciate it. I think you can find examples on both sides that skirt expectations (Jon Stewart...definitely cerebral, but can also be lowbrow, for instance).
Shit, I don't know where I'm going with this...
Anyway, thanks for making me think.
Stereotypes suck. You are funny. So funny that you can ususally catch me mid-morning by myself in my office, trying to stifle my laughter while I read your take on the world. Boys are funny, but the girls I know are funnier than the boys I know. Wit is fun.
humor and of course peeing while standing.
If we can tackle those two key factors we can rule the world.
Actually, I was sort of dealing with this myself just recently when I telling someone a story and told her that I was so upset I "chewed her a new one". And the aghast look I got from the woman I was talking to made me realize that I am a little "coarse".
And I have been trying to decide whether or not I care. Still deciding.
On the humor note:
I do not think Jim Carey is funny. And that is because, like you, I appreciate intelligent humor.
And that might just be the difference between women and men when it comes to humor.
Men like slapstick. Women like wit.
Again, I am generalizing because I know many members of both sexes that break that rule.
I have my father's wit. He is quick, cutting and funny as hell.
My mom can't tell a joke to save her soul and misses half of our banter when we get together.
hmmmm. Definitely worth some thought.
I get what you're saying. I can come up with things to say but I usually don't say them because I become consumed with a fear that my joke doesn't make sense or that I might offend someone. I wish I had the "balls" to just let go sometimes. I think another place that boys get more props is music. Girls have to be pretty or sexy to get an album out. Boys can have messed up grills or be obscenely overweight and they'll still get a contract if they've got talent.
OK, what's your take on Sarah Silverman? Funny or annoying?
Ugh, I hate the "Girls aren't funny" meme. People like Christopher Hitchens who talk about how women have babies and baby having is serious so women CAN'T be funny irk me. (Yes, that was his argument. Baby having = not funny. Stupid Christohper Hitchens.)
I agree that you are funny, but disagree that humor is harder for girls.
And OH MY GOD, I was JUST searching for that very Tim Curry video last week...so thank you for posting this!
(I was telling him a recipe invloving a "boner-sized zucchini", and wanted to hyperlink this video, so there we have it)
Yes, I have a friend (male, natch) who says flatly "Women aren't funny." Apparently it's OK if we're witty, like Dorothy Parker. I agree totally, it's unfair, and wrong.
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