So tell me, if you please, how someone is NOT supposed to use the Emergency Room as their Primary Care Provider if they cannot- despite hand selecting her PCP for his track record of being available to his patients and her OB-GYN practice being one of the best in the entire country- reach their doctor or receive treatment from her gynecologist?
Friday morning found me crying in the bathroom at work because it hurt when I peed. Fabulous. A UTI. Jesus' way of punishing a lady for daring to have sex.
"Lora, my child. You have previously gone forth and procreated. Why doth you attempt to smite me by having physical relations without the intentions of becoming with child? My Father who Art in Heaven, Hallowed be His Name. (His name is not "Hallowed" it is Yahweh. Don't call him "Hallowed". He has grown weary of that joke) gave you the gift of sexual pleasure so that you may only use it to give him the gift of populating the Earth that he gave you with minions of Christian Soldiers, marching unto war. You are failing miserably, you are a Pacifist and mother to only one child. A child who hath never been to my church and whose precious head is completely dry of holy water as he hath not been Bathed in the Lord by a religious leader. Father is not pleased as that is an insult to the Heavenly Law and you shall thereforth be punished. I will drive one rusty nail pulled directly from the cross which bound me while I perished for sins such as thine up into your pee hole so you remember my word and keep it close to thy heart."
A call into the Gyn, who has treated me once before when I suffered at the hand of the Almighty. Two hours after that I call my family doctor, who is out of the office until Monday and his answering service is not accepting calls. Three hours later, a phone call from the GyNurse on duty telling me that I need to call my family doctor, that the Gyn doesn't routinely care for UTIs and I have to find another way to get a hold of the doctor if I can't get him on the phone.
Right, I'll send Pa with the horse and have him fetch the good doc and bring him to me.
Thanks. Sorry for thinking that a CrotchDoc would be interested in my urinary tract and bladder.
I have a friend who does GYN work, and I know he would call me in a script but that's abuse of friendship and medical licensure and the pharmaceutical process.
So I wait. And drink gallons of water and take those AZO pills and a handful of cranberry pills (thanks Samantha! It took the pain out of my bladder and ut, but I think I got them too late).
I wait for Monday and put my faith and energy into healing myself. I know that all it takes is a conversation with a doctor's office and they call something in. No questions asked. UTIs are common, and sister- let me tell you- you knows one if you gots one.
Around about 3 this morning I get some lower back pain. I have lots of lower back pain, so I write it off as poor sleeping posture and toss myself around. Four brought it worse. Five brought tears.
Five thirty on a Sunday morning is a great time to go to the ER. I was behind a head wound, but we were the only ones there. Pee in a cup (do you know how hard it is to pee in a cup when you have pain so bad that it's giving you diarrea? No? Really hard.)
I breezed through triage, and the doctor told me that microscopic infection inspection showed that it was beginning to turn over into a kidney infection so he wanted to give me a long dose of antibiotics (read: he wanted to make me better and give me a yeast infection at the same time) and he doesn't bother with "further testing for a woman my age".
Thanks, doc. You either age very well or I'm older than you, and I'm glad to hear it from your pretty mouth that I'm at an age where we just assume that X is wrong and we'll do Y about it. I'm glad that you said that about a UTI and not, like Cardiac Arrhythmia or Osteoporosis or something. I'm glad I'm old enough that I don't have to sit through an STD screening and the papers that you sent home with me told me to be sure to wipe from front to back and change my cotton underwear every day and pee after sex and use mild soaps rather than listening to you tell me that.
Advancing age has its perks.
So tell me. Why did it come down to me, someone who has the best insurance available, having to visit the ER before daybreak on a Sunday to get the treatment I needed on Friday morning for something as simple and common as a UTI?
I don't want to hear "and if you think that's bad, wait until Obama's healthcare plan kicks in" because that argument is irrelevant here.
I don't want to hear "at least you have health insurance and you were able to make it to the ER" because I work with people every day who don't have access to healthcare and I know how lucky I am.
Oh, and does anyone have trouble with those pain scales?
"On a scale from one to ten, how unbearable is your pain?"
"Well, I'm in the emergency room, so my pain is at emergency level. I've given birth, and the worst of that wasn't as bad as, say, getting hit with a Mack Truck so I said that drug-free active labor was a 2 or 3 because it was a "natural and expected pain" and the doctors laughed at me. I live with chronic pain, so I'm pretty good with handling things that hurt. I had a migraine for thirty years until recently and now that that is gone I've noticed my threshold is a little bit lower so I'm going to say that I guess... oh, I don't know. What was that girl with the bleeding head at? She was laughing and there's no way I can be laughing right now so I'll say I'm higher than Head Wound Hattie over there but lower than if you were cutting my leg off like a Civil War soldier. So what's that?"
"How about I put you at a 5 and you can discuss all this with the doctor?"
"Okay"
8.29.2010
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Feel better, that totally blows. I had a similar experience last week, not with a UTI, but needing to get in touch with my doc on a Friday. Finally I just said fuck it and called the on call line and told them I needed a call from him asap. Sorry dude, it's not like I planned to interrupt your Friday afternoon. Golfing?
So your PCP doesn't have someone else he refers to when he's gone on vacation? That's shitty, but I think that's poor practice on his part, not insurance's fault.
And the rusty nail line made me laugh out loud.
yeah, I think it's time to change PCPs. Ever since he split from his wife and got a Fancy Job at the hospital he has been slacking.
I guess he has another line to call him when he's at the hospital, but who knows what that is.
I never go to the PCP so I don't really keep tabs on him, maybe I should. A girl my age should be getting her prostate checked annually.
Or something.
And I know it's not an insurance issue, so much. Except for the fact that insurance covers less and less as the hours tick by- which is why I'm guessing the GYN won't treat this because they have a hard time billing for writing a script.
Those pain scales are ridiculous... I never know what to say. It's the living with chronic pain thing... I'm assuming I want to save the 10 for if I am actually, literally on fire, but if what I am feeling right now doesn't qualify as a nine, then you should just shoot me before I reach a "real" nine, because I will not be able to handle it.
Hope you're feeling better soon ~ I hate not being able to get in touch with the doc, particularly when you know all you need is for him to sign his name to a little piece of paper. (Or not even: call the pharmacy and tell them that I am right, that's all I need.)
Actually, Lora, I think it is going to get worse with the Obama Health Care Plan.
I don't think changing PCP is going to help either.
Doctors are in the business of not helping patients. Are first mistake is thinking that they are!
My son ate chicken on a pizza and had food poisoning. He couldn't get an appt with his doctor so he went to his friend's doctor who also had the food poisoning.
You would think we would get a 2-for-1 right.
NO! He charged him $90.00. $90 and he has health insurance but he didn't go to his PCP b/c he was unavailable
You are forced to go to the ER if you get sick when it is inconvenient for them.
My daughter was sick. She went to the doctor who told her she was sick and gave her an antibiotic. Ten days later (after stopping the antibiotic) she is sick again. They won't prescribe her anything. You might have strep they say. Come in and see us!
Ok, sounds fair. They can't give her an appt for almost two weeks. What????
Are you serious.
So, this time I call and I guess I am kind of bitchy and they make room for her the next day. They give her another antiobiotic and say if it does not help you will have to come in and have a throat culture.
What? Why the F didn't you do it right then and there? What kind of game are we playing.
Everytime she goes that a $15.00 co-pay.
She gets better. We don't go back.
What PCP should we change to? There are so few practicing and they have a ton of patients.
It is crazy!
It is not going to get better with the Obama plan. I think it is only going to get worse. The real problems are not being addressed.
It is most definitely an insurance thing. They make it very difficult for doctors to practice. There are fewer and fewer doctors out there b/c they don't want to deal with the bureaucracy.
It is crazy!
How much do I understand?
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Love your way Lora-xoxoxoxox
I remember when I lived in Philly and routinely had the same problem with doctors. I had insurance but half the time ended up in the ER to get something treated because I could never get in. It was ridiculous.
In MN, I've been really lucky with getting in right away and if not, there are terrific urgent care places that have real doctors but are somewhere in the middle of seeing your regular guy and going to the emergency room. You can just show up and they are open 7 days a week.
Hang in there! I know how awful those bladder infections can be.
The worst of our nurses wouldn't talk crap behind your back if you came in for a UTI! Sisters know how it is!
You shouldn't think twice about coming in for that! It warms my heart that you did though!
Our system does suck big greedy balls!
I love the pain scale paragraph! I LOVE IT! I'm reading this to my homies at work tonight!
For the same reason we supposedly have good insurance, and our doc's office is closed at 4pm every day except Thursdays. Then they close at noon. If they are open and you can't get an appt, you either have to wait or go t the ER. If they're closed, there is no on call doc or answering service. You have to make the call to go to the ER or call in the morning when they open at 7:30am, be #86 in the queue, and see if they have an appointment. OR, you can leave a message and your message will be received in the same order - yeah right, because there have been times I was NEVER CALLED BACK. And the poor ER people know as soon as they find out we're military. Listen, I hate clogging up your ER for stupid shit as much as the next person, but for the lack of an urgent care clinic, and no doctor, I have no other choice sometimes. Pisses me right off. So yeah, I get the having insurance and still ending up in the ER for something you could've gone to the doctor and been done. And can I just add, that why the hell do I have supposedly good insurance when the clinic pharmacy isn't required to carry my son's medication, even though it's a medical necessity. Yes I know it's non formulary, but if you have a resident who is on medically necessary medication, that post clinic should be required to stock it. Nope. I have to go to the local retail pharmacy who also may or may not have enough in stock. Annoying when my husband is in a job where he could die for these numbskulls who write these policies.
You boor thing! Get that rusty nail outa there and give it to someone who deserves it!
poor. I meant POOR thing.
No one deserves a rusty nail up their crotchular area. I don't want to diminish your pain, but I laughed at least five times while I was reading this. Head Wound Hattie? Brilliance.
Why is everything so complicated? Sometimes you just want to smack something, someone or EVERYBODY and say, "C'mon, why are we complicating things?"
I hope you feel better soon!
Amen to all that.
I can't stand the current state of our healthcare system either.
Sadly, I have to agree with you that continuing to leave the insurance companies in control of health care is not going to solve the problem.
There's something seriously fucked up when some dumb office thinks you should let an infection spread to further organs instead of the wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am treatment you needed. Morons.
that fucking sucks.
i'm sorry your crotchal area is all infecticided.
I'd forgotten just how much I like your blog. A LOT.
That really sucks!! It's kind of like my blog post where I didn't feel the baby move all day and I ended up being sent back and forth from hospital to clinic. It would have been such an easy thing for SOMEONE to just pull out a heart rate monitor and say "Yep, she's fine. Go home and relax already lady." But no, it had to turn into a big performance.
I hope you're feeling better really soon. Like yesterday.
I've had the UTI turned to kidney infection leads to ER visit because it hurts to fucking bad all you can do is cry.
Let me tell you, if your PCP or GYN had this experience, he would be a lot nicer and more accommodating.
Smooches!
Ok really?? What kind of PCP (i still laugh when I see that used for primary care physician...) anyways what kind of show is your doctor running over there at his office?? My god.
I had a UTI turn to a kidney infection. It's no joke... that shit HURTS.
Oh dear!! I am so sorry that you are in such pain. I would have said 8 and that is why I am here!!! Hope you can finally get somewhere with your doctor. That really sucks! You would think he would have someone on call????? Seriously!!!!!
Feel better soon!
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SueAnn
Y.i.k.e.s. So sorry.
Really.
I hear you on every last word of this post my friend, and have been going through my own merry-go-round of hell trying to get things taken care of since my emergency surgery last month. I've kicked the hosp urologist to the curb and have found my own. I don't jump through medical hoops anymore and if a doctor pulls the no call/no show bull shit on me, I get another one. It's ridiculous what people are put through when it comes to their health (as is the scale of 1-10 pain question) and I'm just SO looking forward to the health care reforms... (Note the Sarcasm on that last part).
I'm so sorry - for two reasons. Firstly for your pain and secondly that I laughed my way through your entire post.
I have said it to, oh I don't know, nearly every American that I've interacted with that I just don't get how your health care system works. Here, oh we have our problems at the public hospital but we can either get free public healthcare or pay for it and get reimbursed by the insurance company (well after the insurance company takes out money for oh just about everything imaginable). The only time we see different docs is when we change them or they are on vacation.
As for the "under cover" scripts... I'm not calling any names but we both know someone who has no problem with that at all, especially when the docs here sometimes just call in scripts to the pharmacy without seeing the patient. And the doc charges $40 just to fax it in. Why bother?
I hope you feel better soon!
That entire paragraph in red? Yeah. Totally laughed my ass off! Rusty nail? Hahahahaha Damn girl...alls I can say is I'm sorry you are in pain and at least you can find the humor in the situation (after the fact, of course).
Oh, and I've missed reading your blog. I'll try not to wait until it's 3 am and I can't sleep a wink before I come back. :)
Oh my lord. Thanks for the rusty nail visual. I am paralyzed on my chair now.
And... dannnnng. Jesus is mean!
Doctors suck sometimes...walk-in clinic? Urgent-care center? It's a cluster.
Yup. It sucks, even with mondo-amazing insurance. And we're the lucky ones. We're fortunate to have one of the last pediatricians on the planet who actually cares for her patients and takes her time and listens to us and sees us or calls stuff in when we need it. If she every quits, I'll cry.
Also, urgent care. Do they not have urgent care in Philly? 'cause that's where we go if we can't get to the DR and don't want to go to the ER. Or a minute clinic?
Of course, we have a PPO and can pretty much do whatever we want. If you have HMO you are screwed.
I say once you feel better, get one up on 'The Big Guy' and have sex atleast twice in the same day.
Abstinence is for sissies. =)
I'm sorry for all the lady stuff/issues. Doesn't seem right.
We seem to have an over abundance of triage centers who are open 7 days a week where you just walk in and they see you so you can avoid going to the ER. I guess until now I didn't know just how lucky we are.
It took my daughter less time (45 minutes) to get xrays and a cast on her broken ankle (not in the ER by the way) than it did for you to get a UTI treated. What's wrong with this picture?
I don't have fabulous insurance. I'm self emp. and pay out of pocket for just about everything.
A friend who works for the postal service who has great ins. coverage just told me he went to the ER the other day and the ER visit itself was covered by Blue Shield insurance but the DR. didn't accept Blue Shield, so he got a bill for $1500. Who has time to check with the ER dr. to see what insurance they accept?
Talk about a scam. Our system is broke and is not going to be fixed anytime soon.
Well, geez, that sucks. Royally sucks. WTH is the point of having an on-call service if they can't reach the doctor on call? Or whatever doctor there is?
I guess I've been pretty lucky with the docs I have found here (knock on wood - several times over) and their ability to see me. And even the Urgent Care places haven't been that awful. But in general, insurance, ERs, that whole shebang just plain sucks.
Hope you're feeling better after getting all that out, AND after your actual treatment. Meds, right? ;) Fun times.
Poo. That is major suckage written in a quite humorous fashion:)
Feel better!!
What a horror. And when the whole healthcare debate was going on, was it touted how FAST we get to see our doctors in this country?
I've had kidney stones, so I know how bad it gets. It's the closest to birth pain I've ever had. And to think if anyone had seen you when you tried, you would never have gotten that bad.
I hope you're feeling better now. And I hope the antibiotics don't cause any other problems.
I hope you're feeling better and want to know if the E.R. people asked you the pain scale question.
I've also paid a visit to the ER at 4 am on a Sunday morning and was asked on a scale of 1 to 10 what's the pain level.
I wanted to bitch slap the woman, but instead said: Do you really think I would be here at 4 a.m. if I weren't at a 10????
Do you get UTIs often? If you've had two in the last year or so, you might want to see a urogynecologist. They will usually send you off with a standing prescription, so you can fill it at the sign of a UTI, and before having to go see them to pee in the cup for testing.
I saw one around Christmas because I thought I had a UTI, but three cultures showed this to be negative. Turns out you can have the symptoms but zero infection, which can suck my ass, straight up. Because only time and a strict diet takes that pain away. I also want to recommend something called D-Mannose. You can take it preventitively daily or just before and after sex. It prevents e coli (and e coli, only) from adhering to the bladder wall.
I feel your pain. It's awful.
That sounds pretty bad. Have you tried peeing standing up? That seems to work for me, but I don't have a vagina.
I hope your painful peeing problem is solved. I don't feel your pain right now, but by the Gods have I felt them! At least, yours are related to something pleasurable, and not because you are in the woods not showering for days in order to get ready to fight The Decider's war. I'm so glad those days are over for me, but I feel terrible for those out there who still can't pee right.
Oh, and if you break down and want to soak your dried child, I've heard of a holy river for that. But be careful, I've also heard the hallowed spot in question is full of shit!
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Wow Lora, i hooe by now you are feeling much better. My bff has had an issue with her kidneys for 5 months and a recurrent uti and her pain level is about 7 to 8 almost every day.
Feel better and i totally lmao at how The Lord talked to you. Sorry : )
I'm SOOO with you on this. We think we have some great medical until we actually need it.
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I hate the pain scale. How about "it just hurts really really bad and I want to cry but the pain is suffocating me so I can't?"
Our medical system is a joke, but I don't know what the answer is.
I just noticed your little tag line over there "what a lovely way to burn" after reading this post and thought, "Not so much this time." Hope you are on the mend.
I feel your pain! I have also suffered through childbirth and a kidney infection. (thankfully not at the same time) I would say kidney infection is close runner up to childbirth...no joke.
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