10.10.2010

I was bullied a little bit in middle school.  Not terribly, but enough to make me tell a teacher.  And it stopped.  For awhile.  Then it started again so I fought back.  And the kids who were doing the bullying told the same teacher and I got in trouble.

But it passed.  The kids were older and I ended up at a different school the next year anyway because I moved and by the time we all hit high school they were a bunch of burned out losers and our paths never crossed again.

Nothing awful.  Or abnormal.  Or life altering.

I got through high school just fine.  College.  My twenties.

And then I got pregnant.

I'll be the first to admit that a girl can get a little berzerker while she's knocked up, and take things differently than they were meant to be taken.  I don't think anyone who has ever been or crossed paths with a pregnant lady will challenge that fact.  And after you have the baby you are a total mess for a little while and everything makes you cry and wrenches your heart and makes you feel two apples tall and as smart as a wooden nickle.

...And then I got pregnant and people began taking liberties with their words.  Telling me anything they thought I should know.  Anything they felt.  About anything.  I think because we are inherently wired as pack animals, we do some primal things with one another.  That strange I-yawn-we-all-yawn thing, for one.  For another, pregnant women become public property.  It's disgusting the way some people treat public property.

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Fact: I didn't "show" until I was about 7 months.
Fact: I went to the gym five days a week until the day I delivered.
Fact: I read a lot of books and asked a lot of questions because I wanted to know what was going on and what was normal or not so normal and what the best things to do at every stage are.  I'm high strung and anal retentive and a perfectionist.  It's what people like me do.
Fact: I only ate fruits and vegetables and whole grain breads and beans and nuts and dairy.  No junk.  No ice cream, cookies, candies, pickles, meats.
Fact: I gained 22 pounds.
Fact: I delivered early, at 37.5 weeks.
Fact: Jake was 20 inches long, 5lbs 12 oz.
Fact: Jake was jaundiced.  Lots of babies born early are.
Fact: Jake was skinny, but so were Dave and I when we were born.  Plus he was early.
Fact: Jake was breastfed.  Mostly.  At first.  He did get some formula and I'm totally okay with that.
Fact: I'm totally okay with the fact that Jake got some formula.
Fact: I'm not okay with the fact that Jake got some formula.
Fact: I'm okay with the fact that your baby got some formula.
Fact: I labored naturally for thirty some hours before I had an emergency C section.
Fact: It took me about ten minutes to lose the baby weight.
Fact: A few months to lose (most of) the flab.
Fact: Jake was marked a "failure to thrive" baby.
Fact: Jake was marked "perfectly healthy and normal" well before his first birthday.
Fact: Jake wasn't allowed any junk food until he was two.
Fact: Jake was allowed television before two.
Fact: There are lots more facts.

I tried to do everything in my power to assure that I would give birth to the healthiest baby my body could produce.  I wanted to do everything I could to stay in shape so I could have an all natural, drug free labor.  Also, I didn't want to struggle with weight after I wasn't pregnant anymore because I had a few close friends who were devistated with their new bodies.  I watched their self worth plummet and their femininity cloaked by emotion and baggy clothing.  I watched them be called fat, and call themselves fat and I saw what it did to their spirit and their marriage and their lives.  I don't think I could handle that.  So I ate well and exercised and got as much sleep as possible . 
After Jake was born I fed him on demand for months and months.  I continued to eat only healthy foods because I didn't want unhealthy stuff passed through my body into his.  I let him sleep when he was tired, and I stayed awake with him when he wasn't.  Mostly.  When I couldn't take it anymore, I put him in his swing and put myself in time out.  When he got a little older, I let him cry himself to sleep sometimes.  Sometimes I held him until he fell asleep.  I let him skip feedings, and later, meals.  I let him eat in the middle of the night if he was hungry.  I still do.

And on and on and on.  Me doing things to the best of my knowledge and ability and according to the most current up to date medical and social research.  I got a job in parenting so I could know more and do better.  I did everything I could to be better. 
Better than my mom and Dave's mom and their moms and all the moms before that.  And the friends and the sisters and the cousins and the cousins' sisters' mothers' friends and and and.

Isn't that what it's all about, in the end? 
No, not a competition.
Doing the best you can, every generation getting better than the last.  Isn't that what we strive for?

So those are some of the facts.
As I see them.

The opinions?
You can imagine.  If you are a parent-especially a mom, you've probably gotten them.  Whether you are a parent or not, you've probably given them.  They came hard and fast from places I never expected.  People I never expected.  Friends, relatives, strangers.  Coworkers.  Clients.  Grocery clerks.  Nurses.  Bus drivers.  Weirdos on the street.

Opinions like:
"You must be starving yourself. 
Your belly is too tiny, your ass too big.  Where's the all over fat?  Start eating fat.  Indulging. 
Going to the gym is bad for the baby.  For your body.  The things you think are healthy aren't, what you feel is unhealthy would be good for the baby
There must be something wrong if you look like that at eight months.  I looked like that at three months, and my doctor said I was perfect.
Is there something wrong?  With you?  With the baby?
Are you eating?
Why aren't you having a drink?  Just one drink.  One champagne toast.  It's New Years.
Is that coffee you're drinking?  I hope it's decaf.
Why aren't you eating organic yogurt? Organic tomatoes?  Organic everything?
Why aren't you doing yoga?
Why are you staying at home so often?
Why are you going out?
You aren't planning to stay in the city are you?
You won't go back to work will you?
You are getting on a plane?  That's risky.  I wouldn't do that.
Why don't you have a midwife?
Why don't you have a better team of doctors? 
Why do you struggle to see the doctor you chose?  You should go somewhere that's not in such high-demand.
Why do you have to go to the hospital? My babies were born at XYZ center.  They airlift you to your hospital if there's a problem, and you could have a tub birth at XYZ.
I wouldn't go to that hospital.  My mother died of a staph infection in her foot there.
Why don't you just get the epidural?  This is no time to be a hero.
Why did you have to have a C-section?  There is rarely a real emergency.  Doctors just do them so they can go play golf.
Why are you breastfeeding such a tiny child?  He's not going to gain weight fast enough.
Why are you so skinny?  You should stop nursing. 
You look awful.
You look tired.
Why are you giving that baby a bottle? 
I'd kill to be that skinny.  Maybe I should have a baby and only eat carrots.
Give him cereal.  In the bottle.  It will help him sleep.
Wake him up all day so he'll sleep at night.
Let him cry.  You'll spoil him.
Put him down.  He'll get used to being held.
Pick him up.  That's a shame that you let him fuss.
Give him Tylenol/Benedryl/a little brandy.  It will knock him out.
Where's his pacifier?  You don't let your baby have a pacifier? 
Don't worry about the car seat.  We didn't have them when we were little.
Don't wear your baby.  That's obnoxious.
Why did you stop wearing your baby?  Lots of people have arthritis but they still wear their babies.  Make the sacrifice.  It can't be that bad. 
Get a babysitter.  Go out. 
Why did you go out?  I could never trust my baby with a sitter.  Not until they can speak clear English.
Just give him a taste of table food.  Mash it up good. 
I fed it to him because he likes it.  You should see how happy he was when he tasted pudding/ice cream/candy.
Don't give him cow's milk before he's one.  He could die.
Why are you giving him eggs?  Peanut butter?  Fish?  He could die.
It's only McDonalds.  Let him have a treat.
You let him chose his ____?  If you let him start making choices you'll lose control.
You should spank him. 
What that boy needs is to be afraid of adults.  I don't like the way he stands up to people.  Fear = respect.
He isn't baptized?  What if there's an accident?  You are damning your own child.  (see also: You told him Santa is real?  Why would you lie to him like that? and: I don't think children should trick or treat.  You are teaching him that the devil is all about fun and candy.)
He watches television? 
He eats ____ but not ___?  What kind of kid is that?
He asks questions like ___?  I'd slap my boy if he dared questioned ___!

I could go on, but my battery is running low. 
Batteries.
My computer is dying and I'm starting to feel run down.

Every single one of these things were said to me, and they made me feel like shit and I'll never forget the words.  They bite and sting and hurt and tear apart the mothering instinct and the desire to do what is best for a mother and her child just to appease those around her..

There is this huge power struggle about who is right and who is wrong and when a mother does something that she feels in her heart to be the right thing to do for her babies (which is very very different from doing what is easy or what our frustration or anger can drive us to do or will quiet the child for a moment or will make us feel better at the expense of the child), it seems that there are three mothers behind her telling her that they wouldn't do it that way or they did X with their kid and that kid turned out fine.

Let me tell you something.  Your kid didn't turn out fine.  Your kid sucks.  It's a total asshole who has no idea how the world and the people on it works.
(Not you.  Your kid is great.  I'm talking to her over there.)
There were things that my mom did to me that made me not fine.  There were things her mom did to her that made her not fine.  I'm guessing the same holds true in your family.
There are things that I will do to my child that will make him not fine.  I aim to raise him in such a way that he will be strong enough to not make my mistakes with his children.  To work with his partner to be sure that he or she will not make his or her mother's mistakes with their children.

The things people say to mothers may be veiled in good intentions and "I'm just trying to help", but so often at the root it is a power struggle.  The old:  I'm right, you're wrong.  I'm better, you're worse.  I've been there, you're ignorant.
The old ways are better, doctors/therapists/social workers/book authors don't know what they're talking about.  I'm smarter than your doctor/therapist/social worker/book author because I've raised children and know how it really is.  I'm smarter than you because you're dumb enough to believe what's in books, what's on the internet, what's in your heart.
Do this because this is the way I raised you and this is what we do in our family.  In our circle of friends.  In our town.  In our faith.  In our culture.  It's the way we've always done them and always should.  To do things differently is to dishonor me/our family/our friends/our town/our faith/our culture/our ___."

It's bullying.

And if we give into some of this bull(ying) shit, our children will be the ones to pay.

It's high time that mothers band together, help each other and ourselves become educated, and become supportive of one another.  To stop telling each other what we are doing wrong and start sharing with each other how to do it right. 
We all do things that are wrong, and we all should feel comfortable asking for help.  The right kind of help.
We should all have an obligation to help one another change things around to find what's right for us and our families right now.  Not twenty years ago, three generations ago.  Times have changed and so should we.
We need to empower ourselves to take a stand against people who are doing things to our children against our wishes.  We can tell our friends and aunts and cousins and mothers (and uncles and husbands and partners and fathers) that we are doing things different and until she (or he) respects our ways, there will be no unsupervised contact with our child. 

We can.
And we can start now.

39 degrees {comments}:

Jon said...

*TRUE CONFESSIONS TIME*
My mom constantly bullies my sister-in-law about how she raises my nephew and niece. Mom's always resented Andrea (sister-in-law in question) because she feels like she stole my brother away and my mom is just a control freak in general. She's obsessed with maintaining her status as matriarch and does whatever she can to assert her dominance. This involves babying and spoiling my niece and nephew to a ridiculous extent to ensure that they love her more than their own mother.
It kinda makes me sick.

Lora said...

Jon, I'm so sorry you are dealing with this. It's exactly the stuff I'm talking about. I hate that it happens and I hate that the kids get put in the middle of it (babying and spoiling is a sort of passive abuse, in my opinion). I especially hate that it is happening to you.

susan said...

I suspect we would run out of ink and paper before signatures if this were turned into a petition and signed by everyone who has been made to feel unworthy to parent by the well meaning "opinions" of someone else. The good news is that it CAN stop. All we have to do is stop talking when we should be listening. Too often "advice" is less about helping the person it's being given to and more about filling up airspace with the sound of our own importance. God forbid we have to admit "I don't know" or even worse "I haven't perfected that yet".

Have I ever told you how very thankful I am that you were a part of the family I was blessed to surround myself with in those terrifying days of new motherhood? That you are a part of the family I continue to surround myself with? "I'm always thinking of you. I love you and miss you and wish you weren't so damned far away." That holds me up on the days when it all feels like too much. I hope you know how very much it is reciprocated!

Leah Rubin said...

You made so many good and important points that it's making my head spin just to think about chiming in! But kudos to you for posting this, and let's all remember to mind our own business, and 'help' only when it's appropriate. Quit being so judgemental, people, and walk a mile in the other person's shoes. Lora gets it, totally. Let's support each other, not nitpick.

noexcuses said...

As I read this amazing post of yours, I could feel the knife piercing my heart every few sentences. Oh, the things I would do differently if I could go back! They haven't turned out the way I had hoped, but they are surviving and I am happy for that.

My babies will always be my babies, no matter how old and how far away they live. Thank you for this reminder.

Extraordinary post, my friend!

Keystone said...

As a single dad raising daughters, I noticed it was ALWAYS the women scratching my girls eyes out, sometimes verbally, especially in middle school years.

As the brother of eight sisters, I noticed the sisters always arguing over clothes, boys, food, boys, and clothing. And boys.

My brothers and I went fishing and shut up. We got more fish that way. We used plastic lures to catch enormous fish.

Today, gals use enormous plastic and silicone to lure fishheaded guys and catch 'em. Some men are as dumb as a fish, eh?

Women will never work with each other to help each other. Just go to work and see if guys give you more hassle than the gals.
There is no glass ceiling there; it is women, breaking other women's legs off, or at least their high heels, to lower them a notch.

Your post covers a gamut of thought that would need a gamut of reply, but I will settle on one little observation about that Jake guy of yours.

While carooming down your interior highways, his wisdom was apparent as his baby fontanelles brushed up against a rusty nail in your pee hole.
Then, and only then, did Jake wisely turn around and avoid the rust, nail, pain, squished head, and escaped out your belly.

Sliced belly is a very common way out for the kiddos today as the doctors need to meet a tee time on the golf course. Either that, or fewer rusty nails are floating around netherworlds.

Anyhoos, DON'T mess around with this kid!
His brain is quick at decisions and his body swift at movement.
It should be encouraging to you that of the jillion sperm that hit your egg to make a Jake, the winner was willing to ask for directions. Progress already!

I suspect lots of gals will one day want Jake to father little girls and boys for them.

Guess whose claws will come out then? Guess whose fever temp will rise?

For what it is worth, ALL families are dysfunctional in differing ways. That is how Post Secret got started.

Ps. I noticed that ALL of your posts are called "Untitled".
What's up with that?
Tell us on a Post Secret card soon.

Avitable said...

So, wait. Are you saying you WON'T give me your lunch money?

Amanda said...

Exactly. I get comments about my boys ALL.the.time. We do the best we can with what we've got. All I'm trying to do is raise productive and happy members of society.

Susan said...

I've read all the other posts about "banding together" and the formula/breastfeeding posts and I usually roll my eyes and say "whatevers".... I want to band together and be less judgmental, but some people make it so hard.
But your post I was like YES YES YES!!!
I think it's because I know you walk the walk not just talk the talk. Weird to say having not met you, but I have trust in you.
My rules that I try to stick to
Only give opinions when asked.
Sometimes all a mom needs to do is talk. So just listen.
Remind them they are not alone.

Corinne said...

I never considered those sorts of things bullying until reading this post. Now, it totally makes sense.

... and of course angers me that we've all been there, with various people. Still there with a certain mother in law and sister in law... What I can only hope is that we remember being on the receiving end and stop the cycle.

Thank you for this. I read it earlier today and have been mulling it over since!

RuthWells said...

It took a LOT of years for me to establish boundaries with my in-laws, and they are still not respected 100% of the time. Sigh.

Bailey said...

I think underneath some of that "advice" is an admission of fear/guilt/uncertainty. "Do it like I did! Validate my way of thinking! If you do something different, it's because that's what you think is best, which means the way I think/do things is wrong! Show you believe in me and my choices by doing exactly what I say!"

As a young mother, I was disrespected and talked down to. I don't ever want to make somebody else feel that way. Mostly I just nod and smile now, and hope for the best.

Gwen said...

My mother-in-law is constantly tsk tsking at my parenting. My brother in law threatened to spank my daughter once and grabbed her by the arm and yelled in her face when she misbehaved. I was sitting right THERE. Infuriating? Yes. Well intentioned? Also yes. There are definitely people out there looking to get in a power struggle, no doubt. But I don't even know if they realize that. I think a lot of these comments probably come from a place of real insecurity. Like, if I see a really thin pregnant woman at 8 months and I looked like a total heiffer by then (I did) my feeling may be fear and shame. I might react to that feeling and justify my own weight gain by telling the pregnant woman that I'm concerned she's too thin. (Not that I would do this, mind you. Just being hypothetical). I had a really difficult time with the fact that I was physically unable to breastfeed my twins because I have no real breasts or nipples anymore. The disapproving remarks I hear about formula and the selfishness of not breastfeeding break my heart. But there's nothing I can do about that. I try to be a good mom but I'm probably not. And pretty much every other mom I know feels the same. I wonder if Dads have this kind of low self esteem when it comes to their parenting?

I'm sorry you were hurt by so many negative comments. I think you're amazing.

Andrea (ace1028) said...

It's bullying. Holy sh!t, it really REALLY is. Bullying is so in the news right now, so terrible and tragic and sad, and horrible, horrible stuff. And yet it's true, we don't look at this kind of behavior that way because of the old "I'm just trying to help," mentality that gets shoved down our throats. I love my mother to pieces, she is one of my favorite people in the world, and yet, that slight look, that questioning tone and I'm right back to where I started from. I will say that she was never a bully during my pregnancy, thank G-d, or I would have lost my mind. But I get it, the questions asked, the concern masking the need to express what people (THEY!) feel is right over what we're doing as mothers. Seriously, Lora, this is one effing fantastic post. Thanks.

slommler said...

All in the guise of being helpful! I don't know if we will ever learn how to truly support each other?! Sigh! I have been trying to learn for a long time and still fail miserably!!
Hugs
SueAnn

Shelly Overlook said...

You, my dear, are a genius. It IS bullying. Why did I never see that before?

Theresa Milstein said...

Everyone has an opinion. I'm sure I've upset people unintentionally but I really try not to, especially where pregnant women are concerned.

The only time I have a hard time not saying something is when someone has such a crazy nighttime or middle of the night ritual that's it's interfering with their sanity and their marriage. I know a marriage that failed largely over the sleep issue. I tell these people that their child doesn't have to hold them hostage for hours over bedtime. They can in fact fall aleep on their own. The child will be happier because they'll sleep well and the couple gets the two precious hours they have as a couple back. But I'm sure most people have me for it. It's mostly because they're tired and cranky.

I remember every inconsiderate comment.

Your lists of people's comments made me cringe. I often smiled and shrugged. If I wasn't in a forgiving mood, I challenged the person's words. Whatever.

insomniac ellen said...

and once again you have written so eloquently.... and so to-the-point.

wonder why we feel we can do that?

I know I try to tell my daughter [who became a mom at 16] that she's doing a great job with her son. She asked me once why i made a point of that. I told her it was because no one ever did it for me. [my parents had moved away and my m-i-l was hyper critical cause I wasn't June Cleaver.]

Jen said...

All I can say is, RIGHT ON!

You nailed it, every single part.

It's no wonder most of our young women of American fear getting pregnant. The horror stories, the bitching, and the examples people set can be so overwhelming.

Motherhood is a wonderful thing. I have a love/hate relationship with it at times, but who doesn't? I will find my way with a little guidance. I will seek out who guides me.

Great post as always!

Under the Influence said...

My frequent response to people is "Good for you.". It works for many topics and situations such as "We did it this way...", "My husband/wife/mom etc. would never..." "My experience with that is..." and so much more. It really throws people off because they are expecting you to cave to them or put up a fight and that response is neither and ends the conversation.

eleanorstrousers said...

I'm no mother, but I hope that when I am I can stand up to the bullying. Life is hard enough without all of us being hard on one another.

Heidi said...

Right on, sista.

One of the main reasons I tend not to read the so-called mommy blogs is because of this; they so often devolve into Mommier Than Thou arguments: you're a Bad Mom if you do ___ or if you don't ____.

Sweet Jeebus, we're all just doing the best we can. Are our children fed and clothed and loved and loved and loved? Then we're alright.

Also, this is genius: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikvcS3Oe-oA ("Why I Can't Make Mom Friends"); thanks to @Mom_In_A_Million for pointing it out.

Tavia said...

I didn't have much of a problem with advice. Maybe because I was one of the first of my friends to have kids. Maybe because my friends aren't assholes. Or maybe because I have an aura that makes people think twice about telling me how to do things.

My mom is the only one now who drives me crazy with her judgment. She thinks I'm too soft but I don't really care. I see her once or twice a month and she can act as tough as she wants, but after a few hours with the kids she needs a nap so what good is she anyway.

Keep on keepin on and doing it your way. Jake is a wonderful human being because of it. (Having Dave for a dad helps too.)

Silly Swedish Skier Says So said...

I went to a mommy group that I thought might be all judgy but turned out to be exactly what you're advocating for. We just sat around and talked what-works-for-you and you and you and you.
There was a little "you had a homebirth? oh, my world would have ended if I did that." judgyness. But mostly it was all sharing ideas. Which is great. I'm all about trying ideas for whatever works for me and mine and you and yours.

Lucy said...

First, not everything is bullying. Yes words hurt and we must be careful with our words but it seems that now everyone is going straight to "You are bullying me" if a person disagrees vehemently with someone. Listen, my son was bullied for over 5 years. He can tell you the difference. His psychiatrist can tell you the difference. A year of intense therapy helped him overcome his years of bullying but he will be forever scarred.

Now, as far as mothers commenting on parenting. I am confused, should we never discuss our thoughts and beliefs on parenting for fear it may upset the person next to us? I mean I guess we might as well stop socializing.

In addition, I find it funny that we constantly say don't judge other parents and let them be and then when a kid is abused and I don't mean just physical but verbal or neglect and people knew others say, "how could people have just turned a blind eye" Well, we turn blind eyes because now we are saying it is wrong to judge, it is wrong to discuss our beliefs and it is considered being a bully if we tell someone flat out we disagree with them. I don't know I think sometimes we just don't know how to deal with talking. Just because a person disagrees with me doesn't mean I am forever scarred. Hell, I usually just vent and move on. But, I have learned a lot from mothers talking and giving advice, even sometimes when I didn't want to hear it. Because even though I might not wanted it at the moment, I heard it and I thought about it and after I calmed down I tried it. I have tried many parenting tips and have been more than willing to listen to moms who have been there and done it. Sometimes a book doesn't have all the answers, sometimes experienced mothers have a lot to offer. It seems that the younger generation doesn't like to learn from their elders they prefer television, movies, books (if they read) and magazines.
It is amazing what you can learn from someone who has been there and done it.

Anyways, I choose to not speak much and I usually just sit and listen. I have learned a lot from listening. I guess that is why I write my blog because really and truly I do not socialize for fear of offending and when I do go out I talk about the weather and listen. I wouldn't want anyone to feel I am judging them or offering unsolicited advice and it does seem that if you tell one tiny story about your child it is misconstrued, so my lips are sealed, unless we talk weather oh, wait or The Real Housewives, now I can get going about them too!

SM said...

Great post, my friend!

I've missed you! It's been crazy around here, but I'm trying to get back into the swing of reading my favs and this post reminded me why I love you so.

I quickly learned to tune out the "well-intentioned" advice givers - well, the ones who don't matter to me that is. When I get advice or comments from people who matter (like mom or other family) it hurts a bit.

Right now, I'm getting all kinds of comments about potty-training and the fact that he's 2 now and still not potty trained. Nevermind I haven't had a consistent schedule the past few months to allow me to work with him. I think it's a huge accomplishment that he'll sit on his potty even though he won't go in it. But I guess it's not enough for some - my mom thinks I'm being lazy (I was potty trained by 1 1/2...however mom was home 24/7 with us kids). And my sister-in-law offers to help us with it when she hangs out with him. Apparently I'm not doing it fast enough. HE'S 2! BACK OFF! It's frustrating and I hate it.

So I loved this post.

red-handed said...

I know a metric tonne of people who grew up with deadened, frantic, beaten, defeated, tyrannical parents, in homes that were like Sing Sing with cushions. But at least we learned how to lose.

rudecactus said...

You are so totally right. I've never honestly thought of that kind of assvice as bullying but to a certain extent that's exactly what it is.

Miss Grace said...

This post is exactly.
Yes.
We're all human and we're all going to fuck up at some point and no one is doing it perfect and the person who is? Probably doing some fucked up shit behind closed doors.

Theresa Milstein said...

I should add I only gave that advice when asked. When people were at the end of their ropes. I never presume to bother people who are just trying to figure their own stuff out on their own.

Tiffany said...

I entirely understand Jon's comment. He could be talking about my mother in law exactly. I didn't fully understand the symptoms of anxiety until I was fully immersed in that family and had kids of my own. Nothing I could do was ever right. I was a shitty mother for 10 different new reasons each and every time I saw her. And it was all piddly stuff: I'd change the baby on a changing pad without using a blanket on top of it. I'd change her on the floor instead of someone's furniture. I'd use vaseline instead of zinc. I didn't shove my boob in her mouth any time she cried for any reason. I went back to school. I didn't help Steven out at his business (that was the bad wife part). I didn't let her give the baby coke. I didn't let her mother feed my baby wine from her glass (which they thought was hilarious. great mothers in THAT family). I didn't just back off and let her take over my children when she was around. I blew on my kids food too much to cool it, I didn't cool it enough. I was stupid for trying so hard to keep my 6 week old from being exposed to mosquitos (how else would she build immunity?).

There was no winning. It was most definitely bullying, and I most definitely felt bullied, each and every time I saw her. Other members of the family commented on things when she wasn't around - things they wouldn't have even had an opinion on if they hadn't all been gossiping when I was at home with my own children. She did all she could to belittle and demean me and try to make me second guess my ability to raise my kids with any sense at all.

It was horrible. I usually bit my tongue for hours, and then cried the entire way home after a visit to Steven's home town. Now we live here too - how smart is that?

People ARE mean when it comes to kids. Some people aren't, but their constant "fixing" of other's parenting skills still undermines one's confidence. It sucks.

Elizabeth White said...

I LOVE this post. I'm tearing up right now. I needed to hear a lot of that.

mamalouise said...

I LOATHE the unsolicitad advice from anyone who walks by you while prego. I don't like the nice or the mean things they say because I AM NONE OF THEIR BEESWAX! I especially don't like parenting advice from my or my hubby's parents either. I don't like the entitlement or the judgement (my MIL is a Catholic grade school principal...did you get all that?), and I don't like having to call my dad to tell him that if he would like to babysit my son overnight he has to take their dog to the kennel...yes the VERY same dog that we got rid of becuase he was raging out on us. Nice of dear old dad to take the dog in but we were getting rid of the dog regardless. And we didn't want the dog to bite our or our sons face off so don't make me justify this dad, please, k?! Anyway...I totally used this comment as a platform. Maybe I should go write a blog! HA! Seriously woman, love your honesty...you rock as usual!

Zoeyjane said...

brava. If I could stand up and clap without my neighbour thinking I was schizophrenic, I would.

LJ said...

I can relate to this one, too. I had a lot of the same things said during all 3 of my pregnancies and while the boys were growing up.

Sadly, I still do, my mother is the worst one about that stuff. That's why I moved 900 miles away. :)

Excellent post!

Pamela said...

My mom's a passive-aggressive bully. It makes me fucking stabby.

And I'm with the guy who commented about your posts being called UNTITLED. It would help me not miss gems like this if they had names. Like ELEANOR. Or BUZZ. Or SMITTY. Get on that.

Superjules said...

Oof. I've seen people say hurtful things to moms I know. I'VE probably said hurtful things, too.
I'm really glad that you and people like you speak out and SAY that it hurts because I think people can be really clueless and not realize how deep their words cut.

Lizzi said...

Yes to everything.

"Doing the best you can, every generation getting better than the last. Isn't that what we strive for?"---Shane and I were talking about this very same thing (except about our 19-year-old nephew) last night. It is what I strive for and I hope it's what my child will strive for.

kateyleigh said...

he's so lucky to have you as a mom, Lora. i'm so lucky to have you in my Google Reader. seriously, you inspire me. if i'm ever a mom, i want to be just like you. and as a person and a woman, i want to be just like you.